my specialty

pinguicula (all)-heliamphora ( just the taxon )
dorstenia
ant plant

http://fern72.free.fr/growinglist/titre2.htm

jeff

Hi, Jeff!

Welcome to our forum!

Sorry, I don't know these species by name (trigger plant, dorstenia, philcoxia and paepalanthus)... By the way, do you have some pics of them? They can be common just here, but I don't know if I ever seen them (I'm not a biologist)... If you could, post images...

Regards!

Hi Jeff,

welcome to PCBR! It's a beautiful list of helis, congratulations.

Regards.

Carlos.

trigger plant or stylidium are not a bresilian species but a australian species it is a new carnivorous genus.

dorstenia is not a carnivorous plant , some one are bresilian

here a dorstenia brasiliensis

or this one dorstenia arifolia ( a MARCELO picture take "in "situ")


the extraordinary flower are in the middle.

philcoxia is perhaps a new carnivorous plants
see this pdf
http://pinguicula.free.fr/Philcoxia.pdf

paepalanthus bromelioides ? it is a friend request

jeff

Hello Jeff,

The link isn't working for me.
Philcoxia is a very interesting plant but is it sure a carnivorous plant?

Regards,
Vitor B.

Hi Jeff,
Bonjour!

Nice to see you here.

I was with Marcelo when he took this picture. He showed me a nice population of this species growing on humid ground under shade. They form really beautiful leaves. I tried to keep some rhizomes alive but they insisted on dying.
I will now try to start it form seed.

I don´t know if the confusion about Philcoxia classification still occurs. It was first placed in Scrophullariaceae family, but then transferred to Plantaginaceae. It seems to be greatly related to the Lents and probably they have some carnivourous or pseudo-carnivorous behavior. Quite interesting. Also and Still interested in it too.

Nice Heli list!

Regards,
Nilber

Bonjour

the philcoxia link is OK , now , excuse me

an other document with picture and a test of carnivority
http://pinguicula.free.fr/Philcoxia2.pdf

this plant grow in the minas gerais district

it is more easier NILBER to grow these dorstenia plants by seedling

jeff

Hello Jeff,

Now the link is working for me, Thanks.
I only asked about the sure of the carnivory because our friend
Fernando R. only told me that exist this possibility and sent me the same
Document that you showed us.
You know, in the Botany the people could have many diferent opinions about
the same thing. I asked because maybe you have some news for us.
Sorry if I was rude. It wasn't my intention.

Kind regards,
Vitor B.

no problem VITOR,
this case it is the same that stylidium , carnivorous or no
or roridula ( for me more close for "symbiose" (in french) than the carnivority)

different opinions must be necessery to bring forward

excuse my bad english

jeff

Só para lembrar aos companheiros desavisados: diversas espécies de Dorstenia encontram-se na Lista Oficial de Flora Ameaçada de Extinção.
Vide Portaria Nº 37-N, de 3 de abril de 1.992, do IBAMA.
Dentre estas espécies, estão":
Dorstenia arifolia Lam. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “caapiá”, “caiapiá”, ”capa-homem”, ”carapiá”,

“contra-erva”, “figueira-terrestre”. (Minas Gerais, Espírito Santo, Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo). Categoria:

Vulnerável (V);

Dorstenia cayapia Vell. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “caapiá”, “caiapiá”, “caiapiá-verdadeiro”.

(Bahia, Minas Gerais, Espírito Santo, Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo). Categoria: Em Perigo (E);

Dorstenia elata Hook. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “caiapiá-grande”. (Minas Gerais, Espírito Santo,

Rio de Janeiro). Categoria: Rara (R);

Dorstenia ficus Vell. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “contra-erva”, “figueira-terrestre”. (Rio de Janeiro).

Categoria: Rara (R);

Dorstenia fischeri Bureau. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “caiapiá”. (Rio de Janeiro). Categoria: Em

perigo (E);

Dorstenia ramosa (Desv.) Car. et al. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “caiapiá-grande”, ”capa-homem”,

“contra-erva”, “figueira-da-terra”. (Rio de Janeiro). Categoria: Vulnerável (V);

Dorstenia tenuis Bompl. ex Bur. MORACEAE. Nome popular: “violeta-da-montanha”,

“violeta-montes”. (Paraná, Santa Catarina). Categoria: Vulnerável (V);